‘Phineas & Ferb’ co-creator returns with new present ‘Hamster & Gretel’


For those who didn’t know {that a} sure animator with Alabama roots was behind a brand new Disney Channel cartoon, the super-powered hamster can be a fairly large clue that Dan Povenmire was concerned.

Povenmire, who grew up in Cell, has had an enviable profession up to now. He honed his a number of skills – character design, animation, screenwriting, songwriting, course and voice work – on a lot of reveals together with “The Simpsons,” “SpongeBob SquarePants” and “Household Man.” Then he and co-creator Jeff “Swampy” Marsh launched successful of their very own with Disney’s “Phineas & Ferb,” during which Povenmire voiced villain Heinz Doofenshmirtz. He and Marsh additionally created the associated sequence “Milo Murphy’s Legislation.”

“Phineas & Ferb,” nominally concerning the summertime misadventures of two genius brothers, featured an interesting mixture of large-scale absurdity blended with childhood innocence and openness to journey. These traits are baked proper into the premise of “Hamster & Gretel:” 16-year-old Kevin is driving his youthful sister when the household minivan breaks down. An alien spaceship stops overhead and proclaims that it’s bestowing superpowers on two beings under.

The alien ship zaps them and flies away. Gretel begins flying; Kevin stays earthbound. It seems that Gretel’s pet hamster, named Hamster, was the opposite recipient of the aliens’ present.

In an period the place an infinite stream of superhero motion pictures current characters grappling with the results of their powers, “Hamster & Gretel” strikes an fascinating counterpoint: Gretel is able to go punch issues and save the day. Introspection isn’t in her vocabulary. Hamster can now fly and discuss, so he’s additionally cool with it. Kevin is the one who’s going to must adapt as his non-super-powered destiny sinks in.

“She’s not analyzing something in any respect,” mentioned Povenmire. “It’s what’s taking place within the second.”

“Loads of the tales revolve round her brother attempting to get her to contemplate the results of various actions, or being safer,” mentioned the creator, talking a number of days earlier than the premiere. “He’s at all times being protecting of her despite the fact that she will be able to carry a college bus over her head. And she or he’s simply all 100% impulse, no impulse management in anyway, she’s 100% within the second.”

Povenmire has typically drawn on his personal childhood in Cell for inspiration, and “Hamster & Gretel” is not any completely different. Povenmire grew up with one sister, Linda, who was near his personal age, and one other, Tiana, who was about 10 years youthful. He has beforehand mentioned the dynamic created by that form of age hole is one thing he hasn’t seen a lot on TV.

“You might have a special relationship with that sibling,” he mentioned. “You grow to be virtually an uncle or one other father or mother to that sibling. You’re not competing with them for something. That’s what it was like for me and my youngest sister.”

“I used to be like her different father or mother,” he mentioned. “I used to be driving her and her buddies to the films, to the mall, however I used to be younger sufficient that I might nonetheless play. I used to be the older brother that may play silly video games together with her and wrestle and pillow-fight and all that stuff.”

An alien present creates an uncommon, however enthusiastic, super-duo in “Hamster & Gretel.” (Disney)Disney

Povenmire has beforehand mentioned that Linda served as a mannequin for mother Linda Fletcher Flynn in “Phineas & Ferb,” and that Tiana was the inspiration for the present’s “Aunt Tiana” character. This time round there’s one other member of the family within the combine, and that happened by way of Povenmire’s distinctive strategy to pitching the present.

Slightly than presenting Disney executives with a script, he mentioned, he created an animatic – a pattern that includes animation that was tough, however sufficient to deliver the premise to life.

“I do growth in another way than different individuals do,” Povenmire mentioned. “As a result of lots of people will write a script and provides it to the executives and do a backwards and forwards they usually’ll change the script up an entire bunch for a 12 months or so, then they’ll do an animatic after which that’ll change and stuff. And I usually simply go forward and do an animatic, as a result of I can draw and write and voice and edit. So I simply put all of it collectively myself like a little bit film and present it to them and say, ‘Do you want this? As a result of that is what you’re getting.’”

“I believe it does a few issues,” he mentioned. “To attempt to promote one thing that method is so much simpler as a result of if someone sees one thing in a script, there’s any variety of methods a script could be produced. There’s not a script so well-written {that a} unhealthy execution can’t damage it. There’s probably not a script that’s so poorly written {that a} good execution can’t elevate it. Since you’re going to rewrite a number of the stuff within the execution. In order that’s a more durable factor to gauge. However for those who come to someone with one thing that appears like a cartoon, it’s simply not absolutely animated, it’s like, I can see the drawings, I can really feel the timing of those jokes, I get an entire really feel for what this present goes to be. They will make that call simpler. I at all times simply attempt to give them that, to allow them to make the choice primarily based on what it will be and never what they think about it’s going to be from the script. I get a extra trustworthy response out of them they usually get extra confidence as to what the present can be like when it’s achieved.”

Nonetheless, there was a variety of work to be achieved within the practically two years since Disney gave its approval to the sequence. Povenmire mentioned that timetable isn’t uncommon.

“All of the reveals that I’ve began have taken about that lengthy to go on the air,” he mentioned. “And it’s a bizarre two years. Two years is a very long time to be engaged on one thing and never have it’s going anyplace. We have been simply entertaining ourselves. We have been having a good time making ourselves snigger. But it surely’s bizarre whenever you’re making TV as a result of type of the aim of TV is to get on the market and discover an viewers, exterior. And to have that not be the case in any respect for like two full years, that’s like half of a high-school profession, so we’re simply chomping on the bit, we’re so excited it’s going to get out into the ether this Friday.”

Gretel, left, and Hamster embrace super powers without any second thoughts in the new Disney Channel series

Gretel, left, and Hamster embrace tremendous powers with none second ideas within the new Disney Channel sequence “Hamster & Gretel.”Disney

“All people within the writers’ room and the board artists and the administrators, the crew, we have been all having a good time making this present and it was making us snigger,” he mentioned. “Issues begin sticking to the wall, like operating gags and stuff, and you’d hope that additionally they keep on with the wall for the viewers. You simply begin leaning into the stuff that you simply suppose is de facto humorous.”

Characters tackle a lifetime of their very own. Tales construct on one another. Voice actors usher in their very own personalities and ability units, which might immediate writers to reshape the characters. When the voice actors can sing, it opens up musical prospects.

This time round, Povenmire’s strategies drew one other member of the family into the combination: His daughter Meli, now 14.

“After I was making the little animatic that I used to promote the present, I simply mentioned ‘Meli, are you able to are available right here and browse a few traces for me, so it’s not my voice because the little woman?’ And she or he got here in and did it and he or she nailed the humor proper off the bat. I believe partially as a result of she grew up with me as her dad, so she understands my humorousness very well.

“We recast everyone in that unique presentation, aside from her,” mentioned Povenmire. “We recast me, even. I used to be initially the villain after which I used to be like, ‘I used to be the villain, I used to be Doofenshmirtz already, I don’t suppose I must be this man as properly.’ They examined it together with her voice in it and the testing scores got here again actually actually good, particularly for that character.”

Just like the super-powered little woman she voices, Meli Povenmire is doing a little heavy lifting: A lot of the character’s exuberance, which clearly is among the core components of the present, comes from her voice work.

“She acquired to go right down to Comedian-Con with us and do her first day of press,” mentioned her proud father. “She did it very well, she acquired nice laughs on the panel, she’s an actual trouper.”

“Phineas & Ferb” has proved to have an extended half-life: Since ending in 2015 it has been adopted by a number of stand-along initiatives, the newest of which was the feature-length “Candace In opposition to the Universe” in 2020. A few of its musical numbers have discovered a second dwelling on TikTok, the place Povenmire has six million followers. Nobody might have seen that half coming.

“I simply attempt to write a music that matches that second and hopefully is catchy,” Povenmire mentioned.

“‘Busted’ is throughout TikTok,” he mentioned. “There’s 1000’s of individuals doing these movies of it and lip-synching to it and choreographing to it and all this type of stuff.”

If something, he’s underplaying it. TikTok says fan-made takes on “Busted” have racked up 3.5 billion views.

“You understand, Martin Olson and I wrote that music 15 years in the past in a single hour,” Povenmire mentioned. “If I had recognized how lengthy it might keep within the hearts and minds of the general public, we’d have tried more durable. We’d have spent extra time on it. However I don’t know if it might have been a greater music. So I strive to not get caught up in what the way forward for these songs may be.”

Equally, he goals for one thing instant when creating an episode, not on some long-term significance.

“I hope they only have a superb time watching it,” he mentioned. “To me, the factor that I at all times need to be sure that of is that I just like the characters by the top of each episode.”

“It’s laborious to inform, whenever you’re placing collectively comedy,” Povenmire mentioned. “You see these jokes so many instances that they’re not humorous to you. … What I I do at all times strive to ensure is, once I’m achieved with a present and I watch it, do I nonetheless like these characters? Do they nonetheless make me smile and stuff like that? So, I believe these are essentially the most lovable characters that I’ve achieved and I hope that the remainder of America and the world type of falls in love with them the best way that I’ve fallen in love with them.”

“Hamster & Gretel” premieres Friday, Aug. 12, on the Disney Channel, with an preliminary launch on Disney Plus on Aug. 17.


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